Showing posts with label vietnam. Show all posts
Showing posts with label vietnam. Show all posts

13 December 2009

Obscure War Blogging Part II: Sino-Vietnamese War or Third Indochina War





















Last time we met, Pol Pot had just gotten too big for his britches and picked a fight with a much more powerful Vietnam. The next obscure war in our series follows hot on the heels of that one...

Who?: A red-hot Vietnam, fresh off of driving out the Americans, capturing South Vietnam, and showing the Khmer Rouge what for and the big, strong post-Sino-Soviet Split PRC, now in the midst of reform under the steady hand of Deng Xiaoping.

When?: 1979

Toll: The Correlates of War dataset puts the battle deaths at 21K. Official figures are sketchy, but it seems likely that both sides suffered heavy casualties. The war was fought entirely in Vietnam, so civilian casualties were probably quite high among the Vietnamese (some civilians from northern Vietnam claimed that the PLA leveled every building in their towns and villages).

Why?: While the ostensible reasons for the Chinese invasion were poor treatment of ethnic Chinese in Vietnam and Vietnam's occupation of the Spratly Islands, the broader regional and geopolitical picture is much more interesting.

As mentioned in the last entry, China was angry at Vietnam for deposing its Khmer Rouge proxies and for aligning so strongly with the USSR (Russian was now replacing Chinese in Vietnamese school curricula). China had just gotten out of its friendship treaty with the USSR and had a chip on its shoulder. It wanted to demonstrate that a) Vietnam could not dominate Southeast Asia and that b) the USSR could not protect "the Cuba of the East" from China.

At the same time, despite China's assistance against the Americans and the two states' shared communism, Vietnam and China had a long history of enmity that centered around China's historical domination of the smaller nation. This historical feud is probably best personified by the Trung Sisters, Vietnamese folk heroes who supposedly fought off Chinese invasions in the first century (riding elephants, no less).

A couple of other possible, more conspiratorial explanations for the invasion center around Deng Xiaoping's recent seizure of power in China. Some have speculated that Deng may have launched the war in order to a) point out flaws in the PLA and the need for modernization or b) distract the military while he eliminated leftist rivals in the wake of the Cultural Revolution and consolidated power.

Outcome: Chinese ground forces made a brief incursion into the northern part of Vietnam and fighting was fierce. China did not employ airpower. There were some naval engagements that China got the best of, not surprisingly. Overall, though, the plucky, battle-hardened Vietnamese military fought back fiercely against the Chinese force which has been estimated at somewhere around 100K to 200K strong. China actually employed very large forces along its border with the USSR at the same time just in case it decided to intervene on behalf of its client.

The fighting did serve to highlight serious flaws in the PLA, including antiquated technology and poor logistics. Less than a month into the invasion, China announced that Vietnam had been sufficiently punished and withdrew. Both sides spun the war as a victory. However, Vietnam continued its control over the puppet government in Phnom Penh and continued to hassle China along its border.

One small positive aspect of the conflict for China was that it demonstrated that the USSR would not intervene on behalf of Vietnam. The USSR did send arms shipments, but decided that deploying forces into the Southeast Asian theatre was impractical and that reopening the border war with China wasn't worth it. The lesson here, kiddos, is that extended deterrence is a dicey proposition at best!

Border clashes continued between the two communist states into the 90s.

Who Cares?: Once again, this war was strong proof that there was no monolithic communist bloc, although the Sino-Soviet Split and Vietnamese-Cambodian War had already made this quite clear. I'm sure, however, that such a thing continued to exist in the fevered minds of wingnuts in the US.

More interestingly, while we sometimes refer to the Korean War as "The Forgotten War" here in the US, the "Self-Defense and Counterattack Against Vietnam War," as it is referred to in China, is truly a forgotten war--no monuments, no account in textbooks, no nothing. Many veterans never really knew exactly why they had fought the war. A novel about the war almost won a national book award in China before mysteriously being removed from the competition! The actual course of the war does not square with the ruling party's national narrative of a China that has only fought to defend itself and has sought to live in peace with its neighbors, so it has simply been deleted from history.

05 December 2009

Obscure War Blogging Part I: Vietnamese-Cambodian War

This is going to be an ongoing series here at Unleashing Chiang wherein I explore various wars that most people don't know much about in an effort to educate and inform. We begin in lovely, exotic Indochina with an interstate war near and dear to my heart, the Vietnamese-Cambodian War.

Who?: Newly unified Vietnam, fresh off of its victory in the Vietnam War and Khmer Rouge-led Cambodia, right in the midst of the genocide.

When?: 1978-79


Toll:
-8-10,000 battle deaths
-humanitarian disasters on both sides; Cambodia, in particular, experienced crippling food and refugee crises

Why?: It seems especially odd that these two Southeast Asian "red brothers" would go to war, especially in the midst of what seemed to be the ascendance of communism in East Asia. What was the deal? Here are some of the causes...

To the American right, this proved that those dastardly Vietnamese commies were aggressive and sought expansion. To the left, this showed that national antagonisms could trump communist solidarity.

Hanoi and Phnom Penh had indeed quickly developed vastly divergent outlooks soon during and after the Vietnam war; for example, Pol Pot was angry that the Vietnamese chose to negotiate with the Americans. The Khmer Rouge began to purge pro-Vietnam members and discriminate against the ethnic Vietnamese in Cambodia.

The war was also a byproduct of the Sino-Soviet split. Vietnam and the Khmer Rouge were Soviet and Chinese proxies, respectively, and the two bigger powers saw the other's proxy as tools against their influence in the region. Both proxies received support from their patrons during the war.

Cambodia had long been suspicious of Vietnam's intentions, and had something of an inferiority complex. It's paranoia was somewhat well-founded though because Vietnam did intend to dominate the region.

More immediately, the two states disputed a number of islands as well as maritime borders. The crazy-ass Khmer Rouge became increasingly intransigent during the negotiations. Before long, they were conducting raids into border villages and terrorizing Vietnamese villagers. Some skirmishes broke out and Hanoi pushed for negotiations, but, well, Pol Pot was freakin' nuts. Cambodia continued to act provocatively and Hanoi decided it had had enough.

Outcome: Vietnam invaded around Christmas of '78 and quickly and easily moved on Phnom Penh. By mid-'79 Vietnamese forces controlled most of the populated areas in Cambodia. The Khmer Rouge were deposed and spent the next 15 or so years literally in the wilderness. The conquerors installed a pro-Vietnam communist regime in Phnom Penh that would rule for some time.

Who Cares?: This war is interesting for a number of reasons. First, it stopped the Killing Fields--one of the most tragic episodes in international history. So it was something of a humanitarian intervention, albeit an unintentional one.

Second, it definitely put lie to the idea that there was some monolithic communist bloc. The Russians and Chinese has already clashed up north, but this was one communist regime actually invading and deposing another.

Third, due to the odd twists of Cold War geopolitics, both China and the U.S. continued to recognize the Khmer Rouge as the legitimate government of Cambodia after Pol Pot's deposal. How traumatized and bitter were we at Vietnam for that bit of diplomatic weirdness?

Fourth, many have argued that the war played a major role in precipitating the Sino-Vietnamese War. Stay tuned for more on that one...